tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3263613130427456647.post2146233079042368166..comments2024-03-09T12:28:08.537+08:00Comments on Isidor's Fugue: (I Believe That) I Would Change This Sports ChantBrian Glucrofthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02144046195231802682noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3263613130427456647.post-21170221614099964842014-05-30T21:30:04.138+08:002014-05-30T21:30:04.138+08:00Interesting to learn about the chant’s history. Th...Interesting to learn about the chant’s history. Thanks for the links. As indicated in the <i>ESPN</i> video and the videos in your links, apparently not everyone shares my opinion of the chant. I still stand by the above points though. Perhaps I should consider a 3000 word essay after all.<br /><br />Based on the piece at <i>The Atlantic</i>, it didn’t seem that most of the discomfort some people expressed was with the “U-S-A“ chant itself but in how it was sometimes used. For the purposes of the World Cup, I’d unhesitatingly choose it over “I believe we will win”, though, again, I wouldn’t mind seeing a touch of creativity instead.<br /><br />I wouldn’t argue that “believing” has no impact performance. But I also don’t think saying “I believe” is necessary for believing or convincing oneself / others that one believes.<br /><br />Anyway, yes, the odds seem rather stacked against the U.S. team in the World Cup. But don’t worry, Pete, I still believe in you.Brian Glucrofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02144046195231802682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3263613130427456647.post-30544958399705418402014-05-30T00:32:25.045+08:002014-05-30T00:32:25.045+08:00It starts slow, but I find it kind of catchy. I...It starts slow, but I find it kind of catchy. I'm not going to watch a minute of soccer on purpose, but not because of the chant.<br /><br />Here is a more compelling version:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH65jS-EseQ<br /><br />I initially thought that this chant resulted from the discomfort of liberals and other soccer fan's discomfort with the good old-fashioned U-S-A! chant. <br /><br />See, for example, this: <br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/a-brief-history-of-the-u-s-a-chant-from-reagan-to-osama/238179/ . <br /><br />Or just google "is chanting usa racist".<br /><br />But apparently the "I Believe that We Will Win" chant has martial origins of its own, at the US Naval Academy: <br /><br />http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/39091/coolest-chant-in-the-country-began-at-navy<br /><br />And while anyone familiar with mental management systems, <br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/With-Winning-Mind-3rd-Ed/dp/1934324264 , <br /><br />will tell you that you have no chance to win if you don't believe you can, that doesn't exactly apply to fans.<br /><br />But any fan who actually believes that the US is going to win the World Cup is delusional. Or caught up in a catchy chant.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14362947529758185047noreply@blogger.com