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Wednesday, February 23, 2011

Additional thoughts/clarifications on "Google, China, and Chinese College Students"

I've received some comments and questions on my series of articles "Google, China, and Chinese College Students".  I'd like to address some of them and clarify several related issues.

Am I saying Google didn't/doesn't know the points I am raising?

Not at all.  I simply don't know what research Google has conducted or collected.  I don't know whether Google was or is now aware of the dynamics I described in my posts (or even if they believe what I've found is "real").  It is entirely possible they were fully aware and due to other concerns felt what they did was in their best interests -- whether short or long term.  My concluding comments on the value of knowing your audience were not intended to necessarily mean Google did not know its audience in China.  It was intended for any of those who make or evaluate similar decisions, whether business, political, etc., without enough understanding of key audiences.  For example, I believe there are many people in the US who cheered on Hillary Clinton's speech who may have felt otherwise if they had understood how it would likely be received by many in China.  I think you can find similar misunderstandings for many other international events as well.

I should also add that based on what I know I do think that Hillary Clinton's speech was a mistake for the US government if one of their goals was "reaching" the Chinese people (or not pushing them away).  However, I have no idea if Google advocated for or welcomed the speech.

Am I saying Google could have done more "damage control" after Hillary Clinton's speech?

In the piece it was not my intent to say anything about this one way or another.

Assuming Google recognized the impact of the speech and desired to quickly repair any damage to its image, Google faced a daunting situation since not only did Google need to manage its image in China but also in the US where its every move received much press.  It would have been difficult for Google to distance itself from the speech without contradicting itself and/or raising eyebrows in the US.  Furthermore, since at the time of the speech they hadn't yet committed to staying in China, it may have been difficult for them to directly or indirectly send the message, "We're still on your side" to the Chinese students who were turned off by the speech.  Finally, any such message sent may have confused people who were unaware of the issue or who had never thought of themselves as being aligned with Google in any significant fashion.  Regardless, once Google established it would continue offering services tailored for users in China I believe opportunities existed for Google to effectively communicate their continued commitment in a way that would be positively received by many in China.  If fact, the continued availability of services itself may play a role in doing so. 

Do I think the students who perceived Google as having "left China" still feel that way?

That's an excellent question and something I've been exploring.  It is not something I feel ready to address.

When I wrote that Google "will need to take particular care to mend and expand the previous relationships it had with its users in China" was I implying it had damaged relationships with all of its users?

No.  The statement was intended to apply to the students who had become disillusioned with Google.  There are other users of Google who this does not apply to.  For example, many were unaware or unconcerned about Google's actions in China last year.  While Google likely hopes to "expand" relationships with any such users it does not necessarily have any need to "mend" those relationships.

Are the two specific possibilities I highlighted for potentially explaining Google's reported decline relative to Baidu the most important or most likely reasons?

As I mentioned in the piece I believe there are several possibilities.  To refresh, the two possibilities I focused on were a) remaining committed users dropped off after not seeing any (or enough) significant action from Google and b) students' changed impressions of Google may have had an effect on the perceived usability/usefulness of Google's services.

I chose to focus on these two possibilities because they related to my previous discussion of the impact of the United States' and Google's actions on students.  However, I think there are almost certainly other reasons that play a critical role in fully understanding any change in Google's performance in China.  As I mentioned in the piece, many students were not concerned about or aware of the dispute between Google and China.  Any role such users played in any decline of Google relative to Baidu is less likely to be explained by the two possibilities I presented, and it is possible such users account for a large amount of any decline.  Also, Google's users in China certainly are not limited to college students.  However, any impact of such users was outside the scope of my piece.

An example of a possible contributing factor I did not discuss is users' perceptions of Baidu's services.  However, this was a not a topic I felt I had explored sufficiently to comfortably address and it did not appear to directly relate to the key issues of the piece.

Given the above points, I simply make no claim as to how much of the decline could be accounted for by the two possibilities I raised.

And finally...

I realize my posts could lead to some impressions I did not want to convey.  I hope I've now been able to clarify and add to some key points regarding what I think is a very important and fascinating topic.

[Additional Note:  I've since written a briefer version of the posts which focuses on the impact of Hillary Clinton's speech.]

Sunday, February 20, 2011

Shaolin Athletics

A lighter post for the weekend...

The Shaolin Monastery in Henan is famous worldwide for its martials arts, most specifically Shaolin Kung Fu.

Shaolin Monastery in Henan


The monastery is full of beautiful and historic sites.  Not surprisingly, for many people the highlight of the visit is watching a masterful display of martial arts.

martial arts show at the Shaolin Monastery in Henan


I was duly impressed and enjoyed my walk around the monastery grounds.  However, when I looked down the side of one of the buildings I saw something quite unexpected.

basketball game at the Shaolin Monastery in Henan

Even at a place most famous for its rich Chinese tradition, there is evidence for the immense popularity of basketball in China.  I wonder if similar to many foreigners who visit Shaolin these players would find significance in attending an NBA game in the US.  I suspect so...

Friday, February 18, 2011

Lots of bikes

I'm working on some clarifications for my earlier posts on Google in China.  More soon.  In the meantime, I'd just like to follow up with my earlier post on transportation in China with a photo from a college in Tianjin.


As you can see, bikes are rather popular at this university as they are a great way to get around.  However, for other universities I've visited they aren't as commonly used.  Why?  Because many universities in China, especially newer ones, are built in the very distant suburbs of cities and often quite  isolated.  Students would most likely need to take a bus to get to the locations of most interest (such as shopping, parks, etc.).  The university above, though, is located in a relatively central part of Tianjin.

Another interesting thing about bikes is that while some students may desire a fashionable or high tech mobile phone, they may not be as keen to have the best, shiniest bike.  Why not?  Because they don't want it stolen.

Another win for pragmatism.

Wednesday, February 16, 2011

China Scenes: Wuzhou, Guangxi - Part 2

The second installment of photos from Wuzhou, Guangxi (Part 1 is here):

View of a section of the city from a hill

More arcade style buildings

Poster advertisement.  The NBA is very popular in China.

Street market

Soccer field in the middle of the city

Alley

I think I know what these are but...  what do you think?

China Scenes: Wuzhou, Guangxi

Today I'll post the first half of some photos I've selected from Wuzhou, Guangxi.  Wuzhou is the city that sets the scene for the post Two Wonderful Invitations I did at James Fallows' blog.

At a pit stop on the way to Wuzhou with a semi-familiar restaurant

A real McDonald's (I assume)

Cat at a temple

Arcade style building
A pedestrian street

There are many shipping boats in Wuzhou

It's common to see clothes being hung out to dry wherever practical

Last post for this past week at Fallows' blog

My last post at James Fallows' blog is here:  Thanks and Some More Scenes from Yulin.

It was a fantastic experience to guest blog there.  It really kept me on my toes to know that what I posted would be seen by a very sophisticated and international audience.

I should note that Jim made it clear to all of us guest bloggers that we were free to post on whatever we wanted.  He had no idea what I would post about, although given our prior discussions I'm sure he assumed much of it would be about China and technology.  In fact, I later discovered even I didn't know what I would post about.  Prior to the week I had a set of ideas, but as time went on new experiences or thoughts caused a few unexpected posts to appear.  For example, the post on "Tiger Mother" methods came to me as I was walking through a park and saw the scenes depicted in the post.

I found it interesting that in thanking my week's guest bloggers and introducing the next he singled out my post Fugues.  It was probably one of the more personal posts I had written, and I was happy to get the extra attention for my friend James, a very unique and talented musician, who had unwittingly made the perfect video to highlight my point.

Anyways, I deeply appreciate the opportunity Jim provided me.  I learned a lot.

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

Clarification on Google, China, and Chinese College Students

My series of posts "Google, China, and Chinese College Students" (Part I, Part II, Part III), which in part describes the impact of a speech by Hillary Clinton on many Chinese college students' impression of Google, needs a clarification.  A representative for Google wrote in to say:

"I'm with the Google Communications team, and I wanted to reach out regarding your recent post, "Google, China, and Chinese College Students - Part III."

 Specifically, I'd like to address a factual point about Google's servers and our business in Hong Kong. Your post includes the phrase, "when Google chose to move its servers to Hong Kong." This characterization is not quite accurate because there was no transfer of servers. It would be more accurate to say, "when Google chose to direct some of its services to its servers in Hong Kong.""

What Google describes above is what I intended to communicate and the post was updated accordingly.  It's a good lesson in the challenges of writing about a complex matter that spans politics, technology, culture, etc.

This brings to mind some issues I didn't get into (there is so much I could have discussed) such as Chinese college students' perception of any changes in Google's services and how they're delivered.  For example, many students were not aware of any changes, even if they were aware of the dispute.  On the whole this may be a very good thing for Google.

Anyways, always glad to make sure I have things as right as possible.

[Added note: See here for further thoughts and clarifications]

Monday, February 14, 2011

More on "Google, China, and Chinese College Students.

PC Screen of College Student in Harbin, Heilongjiang

Here is my series of posts at James Fallows' blog: "Google, China, and Chinese College Students"  Part I, Part II, Part III

As I wrote on Fallows' blog, I think it is an intriguing topic which crosses Chinese culture, politics, and technology.  The situation is certainly broader than what I covered and there is much more to say (for example, additional reasons Google may have lost ground to Baidu), but I think what I shared helps provide a further understanding of the situation.

I'll probably say more on the topic later as I receive comments on the piece.  It's a story with many threads and, like many issues in China, I look forward to evolving my understanding of the situation.

[Added note:  Clarifications and additional thoughts for the above series of posts can be found here and here.  A condensed version of the above focusing on the impact of Hillary Clinton's speech can be found here.]

More on "Fugues"

Recently, I posted "Fugues" on James Fallows blog.  I particularly recommend checking it out as not only does it provide some of the reason for my blog name, but it also communicates a part of how I see the world.

Plus, it has a great video!!!  Check it out.

More on "China Scenes: Dunhua, Jilin

Here are a few more photos to follow up my post on James Fallows blog:  China Scenes: Dunhua, Jilin

Market

Countryside

Tricycle-cart Taxi

Village Road

Friday, February 11, 2011

Latest Posts

Here are my latest posts on James Fallows' blog:

China Scenes: Yulin, Guangxi

Did China Attack My Blog?

China Scenes: Xiapu, Fujian

China Scenes: Yulin, Guangxi - Part 2

The "China Scenes" series include a variety of pictures that I think can play an important role in understanding China.

I've been hard at work on a post about Google & China that incorporates some of my own independent research.  I hope to throw some more light on how a segment of people I often research, college students in China, interpreted and reacted to events as they unfolded last year.

In the meantime...  Here's another photo from Yulin - evidently indicating that the fresh sugar can juice business is going strong there.




Wednesday, February 9, 2011

More on "Ride Like You Want To In China"

Another post on James Fallows' blog: Ride Like You Want To In China

And a few more photos of transportation in Xiapu, Fujian:

Xiapu local bus

Several forms of transportation

Long distance bus station

My motorcycle taxi for a day